TBCA Meeting Minutes, July 29, 2013

Trinity Bellwoods Recreation Centre, 2nd Floor Conference Room
Monday, July 29th, 2013
7:00 P.M.



Carol Craighead
Liz Magner
Sian Owen
Chris Walker
Craig Daniels
Ben Pakuts
Walter Girlato


  1. Studio Bar
  2. Creatures Creating (Creature Collective)
  3. 110 Palmerston
  4. Origami Lofts
  5. MOCCA
  6. Democratization of Development in Toronto
  7. Contra-flow bicycle lane on Shaw



Studio Bar
-History: originally, permits applied as a restaurant but functioning as a public hall.
-Currently breaking bylaws for the City (sound disturbance) and for operating as a public hall on a restaurant permit.
-StudioBar has received 3 charges from MLS and will be taken to court by the City of Toronto.
-AGCO has not responded or provided residents with details of what type of SOP permits are being provided to owners.
-final floor plans are not being provided to the community by the owners of StudioBar; this is important as “restaurant” permit requires a functioning kitchen, but residents have been left in the dark.
-Residents believe the property is inappropriate for live music as it backs directly on 6 residential properties.

Creatures Creating (Creature Collective)
-Tenants near Creatures Collective are afraid to complain of sound for fear of being evicted.
-Many tenants do not speak English.
-Not sure which type of permit the business is operating under.

110 Palmerston
-Sept 24th, OMB hearing is booked—the residents are leading this initiative.  Residents will be represented by a lawyer.
-Residents are also trying to initiate mediation with the Urbancorp (Alan Saskin; developers).
-Issues: One neighbor has 7 windows on one side and will loose all light from front and side.
-Residents want some dimensions of the proposed property to be changed.
-potential to be precedent setting—as this is the first that the city is fully aware of and has had a chance to assess.

Origami Lofts
-Sewage backups occurred during flood near proposed condo development. May indicate how poorly equipped the sewage is in that area.
-Development proposal went to community council in June. Mike Layton backed the proposal to have it built according to the midrise guidelines. It is a deep lot and original plans would have pushed into residential areas. The city will take the developers to the OMB with the aim to reduce 1/3 of the back of the building and cut it down by 2 stories.
-Related: area study ongoing for Bathurst (Queen to Dupont). Origami would fit within the guidelines, and residents have the chance to have a say. Those living west of Bathurst may be cast in shade if future development converts existing two-story buildings into condos along Bathurst.
-Bathurst is not considered an “Avenue” –i.e. the Avenue Guide, developed by the city does not apply. Thus, it should not really be considered for such intensification. That said, if areas are already intensified (ie. Bathurst and Queen), exceptions are made.
-It is hoped that Mike Layton will take a stand on the Origami development as it will greatly impact residents.
-The Internal control bylaw passed by Adam Vaugh and Mike Layton to assess future development will not affect Origami lofts as it was proposed beforehand.
-Area studies underway for Ossington, Bathurst. Dundas and Queen have not received a study.
-Mike Layton did initiate a study for Dundas, but feedback was lacking from residents in the southern part of the ward and study could not be completed.

-Chris Walker has asked that CAMH not be used as a precedent, as it is its own special “planning island”.
-9 stories of proposed development will have huge impact on local residents north of development (loss of privacy and light).
-As it is an unserviceable site (no back alleyway access), traffic is the number one concern. The curb cutting is inappropriate for site, and will add to gridlock, especially with Queen streetcars.
-Sian Owen recounted an email trail between her and Mike Layton’s office regarding traffic impacts.
-Community asked that the ground floor commercial was split into 5 smaller rental spaces, but the developers presented plans with single commercial space.
-Developers said that road is 26m wide at that point (near Shaw), allowing for 33m building, and that is a valid argument, but it neglects the existing character of the street and the average width of the street (which is shorter).
-Neighbors will be impacted terribly and many of them don’t speak English and may have a fair say in this development without help.

Democratization of Development in Toronto
-OCA is talking with TBCA to form alliance; other community groups need to connect, forge linkages to learn how to better work with the City.
-OMB may not be all bad, since it does provide residents with a venue to revisit decisions by the city, but it is an expensive/cost restrictive venue (which is not an option for those who cannot pay for a lawyer).

Contra-flow Bike Lane on Shaw
-Sian Owen believes it may add a level of danger for bikers.
-Mike Layton does support the contra-flow lane.
-Ben Pakuts (TBCA media secretary) believes it would be better to have a designated north south route in Ward 19 since currently bikers tend to ride up one way streets in the wrong direction and already endanger themselves.

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